7-8 April 2005, Bologna-Italy
Acordon Valentina, Amici Maura, Barbiero Roberto, Barkmeijer Jan, Bassini Sanzio, Boccanera Francesco, Bonavita Massimo, Bowler Neill, Buizza Roberto, Cacciamani Carlo, Capaldo Massimo, Cesari Davide, Charron Martin, Chessa Piero, Corazza Matteo, Davolio Silvio, Denhard Michael, DiGiuseppe Francesca, Elementi Marco, Ferri Massimo, Fornasiero Anna, Frogner Inger-Lise, Fruewald Dieter, Garcia-Moya Jose, Hagel Edit, Hayes Patrick, Hohenegger Cathy, Homar Victor, Ivatek-Sahdan Stjepan, Jensen Marit Helene, Jongen Suzanne, Kallberg Per, Keil Christian, Kilpinen Juha, Kok Kees, Latinne Olivier, Marsigli Chiara, McQueen Jeff, Mezzasalma Paolo, Milelli Massimo, Montani Andrea, Mylne Ken, Nemegharire Jean, Nicolau Jean, Paccagnella Tiziana, Papetti Paola, Piazza Andrea, Prezzi Paolo, Pristov Neva, Quiby Jean, Quinet Alfred, Romero Romualdo, Rotach Mathias, Santos Carlos, Sasu Monica, Sattler Kai, Schumann Thomas, Sorani Roberto, Tan Yan, Tibaldi Stefano, Torrisi Lucio, Trepte Sebastian, Trovatore Elisabetta, Valentini Andrea, Vannitsem Stephane, Walser Andre', Wang Yong, Wei Mozheng, Wichers-Schreur Ben and Wilson Clive.
| Thursday, 7 April 2005 | ||
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| 8.45 | Registration | |
| 9.15 | Massimo Capaldo | Welcome |
| 9.30 | Stefano Tibaldi | Welcome |
| 9.45 | Jean Quiby | Opening remarks: outcome of the 1st workshop ⬇ |
| Session 1: Global Prediction Systems and verification (chair: Ken Mylne) | ||
| 10.00 | Roberto Buizza | ECMWF EPS: recent developments and plans ⬇ |
| 10.30 | Mozheng Wei | NCEP Global ensemble: recent developments and plans ⬇ |
| 11.00 | Coffe break | |
| 11.30 | Martin Charron | CMC Ensemble: recent developments and plans ⬇ |
| 12.00 | Chiara Marsigli | Verification of ensemble systems ⬇ |
| 12.30 | Jean Nicolau | Short Range Ensemble Forecasting at Météo-France ⬇ |
| 13.00 | Lunch | |
| Session 2: Ensemble Prediction Systems for Short Range (chair: Tiziana Paccagnella) | ||
| 14.00 | Jeff Mc Queen | NCEP SREF System: Current Status and Plan ⬇ |
| 14.30 | Andrea Montani | The COSMO-LEPS system: recent development and plans ⬇ |
| 15.00 | Inger-Lise Frogner | Limited Area Ensembles using targeted singular vectors ⬇ |
| 15.30 | coffee break | |
| 16.00 | Neill Bowler | Short Range ensemble at UKMO: recent developments and plans ⬇ |
| 16.30 | Massimo Bonavita | Ensemble data assimilation in an operational context: the experience at the Italian weather service ⬇ |
| Victor Homar and David J Stensrud | Results of a test ensemble of human erturbed simulations for severe weather forecasting ⬇ | |
| M. Sasu, M. Caian and A. Popescu | Research on the Use of Ensemble Prediction System in NWP | |
| 17.00 | Poster presentation | |
| Christian Keil and George Craig | Development of a Regional Ensemble System ⬇ | |
| Christian Keil and George Craig | An Object-Oriented Approach to Best Member Selection: Towards Adaptive Regional Ensemble Forecasting ⬇ | |
| Thomas Schumann | Ensemble Prediction at the DWD: current state ⬇ | |
| García-Moya, J.A., Santos, C., Escribŕ, P.A., Santos, D., Callado, A., Simarro, J. | Short-Range Ensemble Prediction System at INM ⬇ | |
| Anna Trevisan, Alberto Carrassi and Francesco Uboldi | Targetting and Assimilation: a dynamically consistent approach ⬇ | |
| A. Walser, M. Arpagaus and M. Leutbecher | Short-range Limited-area Ensemble Forecasts for two European Winter Storms: The Impact of Moist Singular Vectors and Horizontal Resolution ⬇ | |
| National Meteorological Administration of Romania | Research on the Use of Ensemble Prediction System in NWP ⬇ | |
| Edit Hágel | LAMEPS activities at the Hungarian Meteorological Service ⬇ | |
| Michael Denhard, Sebastian Trepte and Jean Quiby | Project of a Regional Multi-Model nsemble Prediction System in Europe ⬇ | |
| P. A. Chessa, C. Dessy, G. Ficca, C. Castiglia | Multimodel-Multianalysis Mesoscale Ensemble ⬇ | |
| Kai Sattler and Henrik Feddersen | Short Range Ensemble Experiments for Wind Prediction with DMI-HIRLAM ⬇ | |
| 17.15 | Poster session + local wine degustation | |
| Friday, 8 April 2005 | ||
| Session 3: Related international projects (chair: J. Quiby) | ||
| 9.00 | Mathias Rotach | MAP-D Phase ⬇ |
| 9.15 | Michael Denhard | SRNWP PEPS ⬇ |
| 9.30 | Ken Mylne | Eurorisk-Preview ⬇ |
| 9.45 | Massimo Milelli | Amphore Interreg IIIB ⬇ |
| 10.00 | Roberto Buizza | TIGGE ⬇ |
| 10.40 | coffee break | |
| 11.10- | Tiziana Paccagnella | Topics for discussion: Possible cooperations and common exercise & Requirements for the generation of LAM ensembles (TIGGE related) |
| 12.50 | Jean Quiby, Massimo Capaldo, Stefano Tibaldi | Final Remarks and Closing of the meeting |
| 13.00 | End of the Meeting | |
21 participants representing the National Weather Services of the following 15 nations: Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy (ARPA Emilia-Romania), Netherlands, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom.
Products: Probability of maximum 10m wind gusts.
Only 8 NWS send wind gust forecasts. Thus the PEPS area (35N-70N, 30W-30E) cannot be entirely covered with this information.
On the plots, an area without information or an area with a 0% probability is uncoloured, which makes them undistinguishable.
This has to be changed: the area with 0% probability must be coloured and the area with no information must remain uncoloured.
Models give in general too much precipitation along their lateral boundaries, i.e. in the relaxation zone. For 4 models, the relaxation zone is not considered. The point whether it would not be better to ignore the relaxation zone for all the models must be examined.
Today, at grid points of the PEPS grid covered with 2 models only, mean and probabilistic forecasts are computed.
This is maybe acceptable for the mean forecasts, but not for the probabilistic forecasts.
It has been requested that probabilistic forecasts should only be computed where there is a minimum of 4 models.
The forecast ensembles should be calibrated and this will be done by the DWD with the use of the Bayesian Model Averaging (BMA) technique (see presentation of Michael Denhard).
It has been requested - and indeed it would be interesting - to have a monthly or at least a quarterly statistics of the mean number of models available for each point of the PEPS grid, at least for the 00 and 12 UTC integrations.
In today's PEPS forecasts, the lead time does not exceed +30 hours. The wish has been expressed to also have forecasts (mean and probabilistic) for the second day, i.e. for the period +30/+54 hours:
Presently, PEPS receives forecasts with a lead time of 54 hours or more from 6 models only. Several models of the 23 models participating are integrated operationally only up to 48 hours or less. The first step in this development is to find out how many models would be at disposal with a lead time of 54 hours.
With time passing, the need for a verification of the PEPS forecasts becomes always stronger. Unfortunately, the DWD does not have presently the capacity to realise a comprehensive verification of the whole PEPS area: it will limit itself to a basic verification. DWD will contact KNMI for the definition of the verification strategy. Besides this, each participating NWS should try to thoroughly verify the PEPS forecasts over its territory by using its high resolution observations.
Michael Denhard has asked whether there is a need (next to total precipitation, snow, wind speed and speed of gusts) for other variables. This does not seem to be case presently. As the PEPS Project puts emphasis on disrupting and dangerous weather, the next variable could be a convective index.
For each grid point of the PEPS grid, probabilities could be based not only on the values given by the different models, but also on the values at grid points in a neighbourhood. In this case, the resulting probabilities would be results of much larger ensembles.
For research works by NWS participating to the Project, PEPS results can be obtained from the DWD. If it would be necessary to also have individual forecasts, the DWD will have to ask the producers of the forecasts whether it can deliver them to the NWS wishing them.
Other Institutions - as Universities - wishing PEPS results or individual forecasts must ask for them through the NWS of their country. Individual forecasts can only be used for research works directly connected with the PEPS method.
As it is very probable that, soon or later, there will be opportunities to sell PEPS forecasts, Jean Quiby encouraged the participants from NWS members of ECOMET to go to their ECOMET Officer and inform him or her of this possibility.
As ECOMET did it for the radar composits, this organisation should develop formulae for the determination of the prices of the different PEPS forecasts as well as for the computation of the financial returns for participating NWS.
As the workshop final discussion was a free discussion not following a plan, the following summary is to be seen as a list of the highlights of the discussion. It must be understood that the perception of what is a highlight is very subjective and personal. Thus nobody will claim that the following summary contains all the important statements and ideas expressed.
With the EPS technique, we could be tempted to think that it is no longer imperious to improve the different aspects of the classical NWP, as the data assimilation, the model physics or the model dynamics. But Roberto Buizza was very clear: it is an illusion to think that we could make good probabilistic forecasts with bad analyses and bad models.
Bad analyses and bad models could enlarge the spread, but the spread must be centred over the true solution, over the reality. It has even been said that "the quality of the data analysis and of the model are more important than the way perturbations are created".
This method is loosing momentum. At NCEP it is already decided to abandon it. Its main advantage was surely its relative practical simplicity, but its theoretical background is lean which does not allow a good control of the perturbations, its main deficiency being that there is no control on the orthogonality of the perturbations.
If you admit - and the trend seems to go into this direction - that the future of numerical forecasting will be given by systems able to explicitly account for uncertainties at the analysis and as well as at the forecast times, you marry DA and EPS with each other. The new problem is to choose them such that they are consistent with each other.
Work in Europe on EDA is starting to take momentum, with the Met Office experimenting the use of EnKF techniques to generate ensemble initial perturbations, and ECMWF starting to revisit earlier work that tested the use of ensemble data assimilation to generate ensemble initial conditions.
The developments around these methods are presently booming in America, but not so much in Europe. The difference is striking: almost the whole European effort is devolved to the variational methods (with 4D-Var as final aim) when in the United States both paths - Var and KF - are followed.
The classical KF method has undergone several developments recently leading to the ETKF (Ensemble Transform Kalman Filter) and the LEKF (Local Ensemble Kalman Filter). The NCEP ET (Ensemble Transform) has been praised by Mozheng Wei as being the best choice.
For the global models: Today bred-vectors are still more largely used than SV-based methods. But SVs are becoming more popular. For example, Environment Canada and the Met Office are starting to experiment their use in ensemble systems. It is very probable that the SV method will supplant in the future the bred-vectors.
For the LAMs, The general opinion was that this method is not yet "ripe" for use with the high resolution LAMs.
If you choose to perturb simultaneously analysis and boundary conditions in the way that each member will differ by its initial condition and by its boundary conditions during the forecast, you have to be careful that these perturbations are compatible.
It has been said that it would not be the best - at least from a theoretical point of view - to perturb both independently, for example to produce the analysis perturbations from random perturbations of the observations and to take the boundary conditions from members of an independent global EPS.
It has been claimed that the ideal LAM EPS would be produced by a unified model, that is with a LAM very similar to the global model where the BC would come from and that each LAM EPS member would be forced by a unique corresponding member of the global ensemble: initial condition and boundary conditions all from the same integration of that global member.
With this scheme, each LAM EPS member would perform a pure dynamical downscaling of its corresponding member of the global EPS.
Ensembles are today primarily defined by putting the uncertainties in the analyses. Much less work has been done on the model uncertainties. One colleague expressed the wish that before we put a lot of effort into the model uncertainties, it would be valuable to have an idea about the respective share in the probabilistic forecasts between the model uncertainties and the uncertainties in the initial conditions.
But the problem is not easy because the analysis is model dependent. Therefore the analysis errors are influenced by model errors. This inter-connection makes it extremely difficult to clearly separate the role of initial and model uncertainties.
At the workshop there has been very little discussion on stochastic physics. The main contribution in this field has been in the presentation of the Meteorological Office with the random use of different coefficients for some physical schemes as convection, boundary layer and gravity wave drag.
One of the basic intrinsic uncertainties in a numerical model is due to the numerical discretisation in space and time. This uncertainty should be dealt with by the use of pure stochastic perturbations.
The use of different physical parameterizations between members (for example some members with mass-flux, others with Kain-Fritsch, others with adjustment) does not account for the intrinsic model uncertainties. This technique can enlarge the spread, but favours clustering of the members around the different parameterizations.
When parameterizations are randomly changed in the course of integration, the different model configurations are not all of the same quality: to enlarge an ensemble by introduction of "second quality physics" cannot be a strategy for the long term.
Ideally, we should have true stochastic parameterizations instead of randomizing parameterizations.
This very important question has been asked by the Chairman, but raised up in the audience only one reaction. It must be concluded that we do not yet know the answer.
But we have to be careful not to continue to think "the bigger, the better". In the ECMWF presentations, it has been shown that there is a threshold in the number of members above which the improvement gained by adding members is marginal. For Robert Buizza a limited number of good members is better than a large number of average members.
It has been generally admitted that in the Weather Services forecasters know today what the method is about and - more important - begin to use it when looking for information when confronted with an uncertain weather development.
In Europe, no Weather Service issues today weather forecasts in probabilistic terms. But in the French speaking part of Switzerland, the TV and a major newspaper accompany each forecast - presented in deterministic terms - with a confidence index (between 10 and 1) based on a clustering algorithm applied to the ECMWF EPS.
But it seems that the general public is no yet ready to accept probabilistic forecasts.
Franco Molteni indirectly confirms that by indicating that neither Meteo-France nor the Meteorological Office present probabilistic forecasts on their respective web site (also true for the DWD).
It was a wish of Tiziana Paccagnella that we discuss (and find!) possibilities of collaborations. The SRNWP Programme Coordinator thought that it would be wrong to define at the end of the meeting a deep, large-scale collaboration. This would very probably be unsuccessful. More promising in his view would be to start with something small and to enlarge it if it suscitates interest.
It has been decided to create a chapter on "Short-range EPS" in the web site of the SRNWP Programme. As first step, information will be collected from the NWS active in short-range EPS in order to give a synoptic view on the state of this technique in Europe.
As second step, we should try to agree on some standard products and some verification scores.
It will be rather easy in my view to find agreement on the scores (Brier, ROC and Talagrand) but the very different spatial resolution of the European EPS will still make comparisons delicate.
In view of the importance attached by the First TIGGE Workshop on "the interfacing of global ensemble prediction systems with LAM ensembles", the Workshop has proposed that the Executive Director of the THORPEX/WMO Project (Dr Burridge) should be informed that the European Short-Range EPS Community strongly supports TIGGE activities and thinks that it should be represented at any forthcoming planning meeting when appropriate.
The Manager of the SRNWP Programme will write to Dr. Burridge on behalf of the Workshop participants.
When closing the meeting, Massimo Capaldo announced on behalf of the UGM that the next workshop will take place in Italy in the spring 2007.